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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 17, 2011 12:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What if......

I think Hornsby tried to shake things up and ran in to resistance.

They would have needed a bold new band member or one of the originals to stand up and say "Hey, this shit is boring, let's dabble with the formula....".

I agree, they could have made chnages which would have surprised and delighted the audience. It's a shame they only tried a the rare break-out or shitty cover-tune-encore to this end.

Addition: A typical 1992 show post-drums Wharf Rat, Passing Stones>NFA(clap, clap, clap, clap-clap...ZZZZ). Half the audience leaves and backstage somebody says, "Hey, screw 'I Fought The Law', let's kick'em in the nuts with Viola Lee Blues!". 35 minutes later...history. That would have been sweet.

But alas, I think the encore became a chore and they often phoned it in.


This post was modified by high flow on 2011-02-17 20:14:01

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 17, 2011 5:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What if......

"Passing Stones" LOL.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Feb 17, 2011 12:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What if......

Hornsby must have run into some big time resistance as he could hardly get them to play his songs (and he had some good ones). But then maybe he didn't push that hard, I have the impression that he was just glad of the chance to play alongside Garcia.

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Poster: ice9freak Date: Feb 17, 2011 1:37pm
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Yeah, it's a shame that a song like "Stander on the Mountain" didn't remain in rotation while Hornsby was on board. Great song.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Feb 18, 2011 9:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What if......

Hornsby supposedly didn't like the arrangement on valley road so they dropped that. he was also interviewed by saying he asked the band to open the first set one night with Wharf Rat and jerry said something like, "Oh no, we can't do that"

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Feb 17, 2011 12:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What if......

Their interest,skills,etcetera,were so far gone by 91' that song selection was the least of their problems,regardless of what they played they were a weak approximation of the musicians they were at their peak in 68'-74'.

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 17, 2011 1:33pm
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I agree.

Then I always wonder how Jerry was still rippin' with JGB through 1993. The JGB shows were SO much better than the GD shows after 1991. I think "the formula" was partly to blame.

I saw shows from 89-91 which were very good. After that it seems GD was hurry up and wait....and wait.....and even when the music was being played, it seemed like waiting for the band to wake up. With each segment shortened, the shows were so chopped-up that they never got rolling. If they wanted to play just 70 minutes of music, they should have scrapped the formula and stopped pretending to be an all-night party-band.

At JGB shows, you didn't have to wait. Ever. The music was strong and the performances were fulfilling from a audience member's perspective.

Before the wood-chipper, Jean was askin' Jerr' about that disparity there....oh, you betcha.

Jean Lundegaard: I am talking about your potential. You're not a 'C' musician. You've got JGB and David Grisman.

Jerry Garcia: Uh huh...

Jean Lundegaard: Yet you're gettin' 'C' grades with Grateful Dead. It's the disparity here that concerns your dad and me.

Jerry Garcia: [mumbling] Mmmm.

Jean Lundegaard: Ya know what a disparity is?

Jerry Garcia: [attentive now] Yeah!

Jean Lundegaard: Okay, then! That's why we don't want ya goin' out on tour!

This post was modified by high flow on 2011-02-17 21:33:02

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Poster: portmcgroin Date: Feb 17, 2011 2:44pm
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JGB was fun and no pressure. The Dead in the later years was work and pressure every night. Jerry band shows were almost like mini vacations for him and I think that shows in his playing. When you watch video footage of the JGB shows he is smiling more and just seems into it, also less vocal flubs. Plus the songs that were played he wanted to play. I feel with his band he wanted to be there with the Dead he had to.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Feb 17, 2011 1:01pm
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Viloa Lee would have been 3 minuets ....

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